Comments on: Intel Aims For Zettaflops By 2027, Pushes Aurora Above 2 Exaflops https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:41:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Brazilian guy https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-172507 Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:41:45 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-172507 In reply to just another hpc engineer.

“At IEDM 2021, Intel demonstrated the world’s first experimental realization of a magnetoelectric spin-orbit (MESO) logic device at room temperature, which showed the potential manufacturability for a new type of transistor based on switching nanoscale magnets.”

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-components-research-looks-beyond-2025.html

I think this must be the silver bullet for zettascale by 2027…

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-169356 Wed, 03 Nov 2021 15:45:36 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-169356 In reply to just another hpc engineer says:.

Intel has viewed reality thru the lense of marketing for far too long.

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By: Roberto R https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168484 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 21:39:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168484 With 60Mw of consumption it needs a very good electrical supply

Keeping it running is going to be very expensive

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By: Paul Berry https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168468 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:06:13 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168468 In reply to just another hpc engineer says:.

The point must be that Intel wants to stay relevant in HPC, which means having some sort of accelerator. They must believe that Xe has merit in the HPC business, or at least that the successor will have merit. Bailing on the contract now will not only kill Intel as a prime contractor, but it will make customers unlikely to trust Intel’s product roadmap for any non-prime deals. Why would HPE/Dell/Atos/etc propose a machine based on Intel’s accelerator instead of Nvidia or AMD? Intel has to deliver a better product (price/performance) and engender trust that they can actually deliver what they promise. Intel already walked away from their previous HPC accelerator architecture, which really was the result of walking away from a prior accelerator that never made it to market. If they walk away from another, and leave the customer holding an empty bag, they will lose a lot of good customer credibility.

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By: just another hpc engineer says: https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168451 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:50:52 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168451 In reply to JayN.

The whole point of saying 2 EF is so they can deliver 1EF usable performance. Intel delivered nothing yet as of today – What relevant software are you referring to? Who cares about oneAPI? They only state it because now they want to sell just another GPU system which others have been doing for more than 10 years. Where is the innovation? The original interconnect is dead, DDR5 and PCIE5 are industry standard, DAOS is blah … whats the point of it than to try and sell more NVMe … if they really want to derisk they need to just get a Lustre file system and call it a day, focus on the silicon. All this nonsense while ORNL and China already deployed Exascale systems with much higher efficiency and working perfectly. Intel keeps shooting itself in the leg and asks “why , me?”. Really, we are aiming for ~50% efficiency for a leading system in 2022? Who are they kidding? If Pat knows whats good for Intel, bow out of Aurora, pay ANL its money back and let them buy a machine from HPE/Cray. Enough of this long drawn mess and dragging ANL/DOE along. Only a fool keeps doing the same thing and expects a different result – both Intel and ANL are doing the same thing over and over since the past ~6+ years and expecting a different outcome.

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By: Paul Berry https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168442 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:53:40 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168442 In reply to Ben.

Ben – The DOE typically does list performance requirements for a bunch of their preferred codes, typically in terms relative to prior machines. The linpack number is for the press, and for the government bureaucrats who need a single number to look at. When I say press, I don’t mean nextplatform or hpc wire, but more general interest press that doesn’t have the time or expertise to dig into anything other than “Big machine X times faster than last year’s big machine!”

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By: AC https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168419 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:42:30 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168419 It’s best for Patrick Gelsinger to stop making public appearances unless he has the product is already shipped and reviewed by external reviewers.

All this noise will have negative impact on Intel. Patrick Gelsinger should behave like a CEO instead of marketing executive or a car salesman.

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By: JayN https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168344 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 05:40:19 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168344 “This machine will have taken nearly four years to get into the field …”

Optane, DAOS, CXL, DDR5, AMX, PCIE5, DSA, foveros 3D manufacturing at a scale unseen before … all leading edge features. Sapphire Rapids was sampling in Nov 2020, but this HBM version appears to have been a late addition. Quite a list of features that are unmatched by the competition.

Intel’s delivered a huge amount of software as well… all that oneAPI code.

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By: Ben https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168327 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 02:38:47 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168327 LINPACK is easy, and the industry should just stop quoting it. The real question is application performance. As in, “do we get 10x application performance compared to Summit, which is rated at 200 PF peak, for DOE applications?” I don’t think that will happen for Aurora.

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By: just another hpc engineer https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/10/27/intel-aims-for-zettaflops-by-2027-pushes-aurora-above-2-exaflops/#comment-168307 Wed, 27 Oct 2021 23:41:59 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=139515#comment-168307 This is a great step in the right direction but I will believe it when I see it. Intel has been redrawing Aurora plans since the day they got the contract, went through 4 or 5 design choices for the processor. Of course, they want to get better publicity and show that they are fighting back, but really, they should just give up the Aurora and let HPE do the prime, and focus on improving their stance in processor design, power, memory, storage and manufacturing.

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