Comments on: Can Marvell Profit As It Tries To Triple Its Business By 2028? https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/ In-depth coverage of high-end computing at large enterprises, supercomputing centers, hyperscale data centers, and public clouds. Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:21:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Oldguy https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-237879 Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:21:42 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-237879 Just came across this article. What is missing is to go back and look at Murphy’s previous assertions on his many strategies for MRVL. They were going to be the datacenter company when DC’s were hot, then the automotive company when “driving datacenters” were hot, now he pivots to AI now that AI is hot. There is no there there.

Take out their many, many price increases on their legacy businesses and the purchased revenue from his many acquisitions and there is ZERO fundamental growth in this company. Possibly less than zero.

Yet Murphy has taken out over $100M in compensation from this turd.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-226064 Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:09:16 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-226064 In reply to emerth.

I know, but it is less interesting to me. For no good reason, mind you. I like a physical thing.

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-226039 Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:06:37 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-226039 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

The secret sauce in computer hardware is the software 😉

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-226027 Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:59:54 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-226027 In reply to emerth.

You and everyone else. HA!

Marvell doesn’t really supply compute engines, but something like SUSE for an OS and Kubernetes might make sense. And while it does sell switch and adapter ASICs and sometimes devices, it really doesn’t have a NOS as such, either. So figuring out a software angle is difficult. I thought Innovium plus an open source (or maybe not) ArcOS was an interesting possibility. DriveNets might be interesting if Marvell wanted to push down from routing into switching software. Something like MemVerge might be interesting for a distributed CXL memory server where Marvell has chippery, and Liqid or GigaIO might also be interesting for disaggregated infrastructure. We sure need another PCI-Express switch supplier. . . . But Marvell has nothing like the legacy software stacks that Broadcom has amassed. And as for Nvidia, 75 percent of its value is software and to one way of looking at it 75 percent of its revenues and even more of its profits should be reported as software. . . . (75 percent of the employees at Nvidia work on software, not hardware.)

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By: emerth https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-226016 Wed, 26 Jun 2024 03:51:24 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-226016 Thanks Timothy. I must say that Marvell has been on my mind lately when looking for somewhere to park some of my filthy lucre.

Marvell in my 30 years in this racket always has been just a little bit sketchy on the software side. Very often quite good on the hardware side though. Of course nV has that CUDA thing and the enormous heap of s/w built upon it.

Do you think Marvell can change it’s software position? It looks like a long arduous road, reminiscent of AMD and ROCm.

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By: Xpea https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-226009 Wed, 26 Jun 2024 00:57:32 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-226009 In reply to Timothy Prickett Morgan.

Understand Tim. But still mind blowing to see the current state of the HPC/Hyperscaler/Cloud hardware space, where it seems that a single company cash in 90% of the benefits. have we ever experienced such domination in a multi hundred billion dollar TAM? As you pointed out in a previous article, the market will probably self correct and competition will catch up but I don’t see it happening anytime soon as the leader is moving at an extremely fast pace…

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-225988 Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:39:09 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-225988 In reply to Xpea.

Having run a few companies of a pissant size and meeting a payroll and being hopeful about opportunities, I can understand how this lack of profits happens. So I have nothing but compassion. And so in this story I tried to put it very politely. Indeed. But the underlying sentiment I have is essentially what you are suggesting: With all of this great technology and skill, you would think Marvell would be profitable. Wall Street doesn’t seem to care, but that is no test as far as I am concerned.

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By: Xpea https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-225966 Tue, 25 Jun 2024 04:22:22 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-225966 Nice article. 2 things come immediately in mind:
1. Nothing lines up if we put public Nvidia earnings numbers into the Marvel equation. Their TAM is way off or Nvidia sales are lies…
2. Marvell is doing very poorly to monetize their IP. Not being profitable when you sell billions in the hottest market on Earth is — to put it very politely — a total failure.

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By: Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-225947 Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:58:00 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-225947 In reply to Slim Albert.

I agree. And am equally surprised. I bet Marvell’s top brass has been as well. This market is not as rich as the stock prices make them seem….

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By: Slim Albert https://www.nextplatform.com/2024/06/21/can-marvell-profit-as-it-tries-to-triple-its-business-by-2028/#comment-225946 Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:01:27 +0000 https://www.nextplatform.com/?p=144321#comment-225946 Interesting analysis! I’m surprised that Marvell is not currently seeing positive net income with its leading products and developments in 1.6T Internet, optical interconnects, 5G infrastructure processing involving ML/AI (open sourced in Febraury for Octeon 10 ARM Neoverse N2), design relationships with Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Groq, plus various controllers and accelerators for storage devices. Its portfolio seems to me to have the breadth, depth, and quality that should ensure positive net cashflow but am guessing that the market’s sudden focus on datacenter AI in 2023-2024 probably led to a temporary slowdown of purchases in networking, carrier, and consumer-oriented areas(?).

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